tv Today in the Bay NBC November 27, 2016 7:00am-9:01am PST
welcome to "today in the bay." it's 7:00 on sunday morning. looking out over the golden gate bridge. not raining at the moment but pretty overcast. if you have plans for this sunday, you're going to want to hear what the woman to my right has to say. good morning. thanks for joining us. i'm garvin thomas. this is vianey arana. >> if you've been cooped up indoors all day or all weekend because of the rain, you will finally get a chance to head outdoors because we will get a break in the rain finally, but the chilly temps aren't going anywhere. if you are heading outdoors, you may not need the umbrella, but you will want the jacket. over san francisco, 52 degrees. as we head into the later part of the day, you will start seeing the dark clouds right now
over oakland clearing out as the storm system continues to make its way through the south, and we are expecting another band of storms, but is that going to affect your football sunday? well, i will have details on exactly what you can expect. here of your highs for today. in the 50s. overall a pretty chilly day, but we are finally going to get a little bit of that sunshine as we head into later part of the evening. here is a live look right now at your doppler radar. you can see the majority of those storms tracking north to south. the north bay already seeing some clearing. out near san francisco, just a few drizzles, but all in all, we should be in the clear for the rain for now though. i can't say if it's exited all the way through. i'll have more details coming up in a bit. >> that's good news. a christmas tree with my family's name on it and i was hoping we could get it and some sunshine. vianey, thank you very much. you probably heard it while you were sleeping, the spurts of heavy rain that fell in the south bay yesterday evening and overnight caused all kinds of problems for drivers. chp officers had their hands
full on multiple san jose freeways, including an incident involving two officers who were injured when their suv was struck on southbound 680. this happened around 11:00. the officers were about to leave the scene of a separate crash they were investigating when a dodge ram truck lost control, slammed into their patrol car. both chp officers were taken to a local hospital for treatment. they're both listed in stable condition. now, not far from there, an hour later, just after midnight, two dozen cars were damaged by road debris on northbound 880. officers say the debris, which came from an earlier crash, caused front-end damage and blown out tires for at least 21 vehicles. several of those cars had to be towed. officers say it was a very busy night. >> well, i can't put a number on the call volume tonight, we dif had a significantly higher amount of crashes than we
normally do and it's all due to the rain, unfortunately. >> no serious injuries were reported in any of the freeway accidents. stay with nbc bay area for continuing coverage of this weekend's storm and snow in the sierra. you can also stay up to date by downloading our free nbc bay area app. free rides for muni light rail passengers in san francisco. that was the case after the transit agency said it was investigating a possible hack on its computer system, but the system is expected to be back to normal today. sfmta said the issue started friday when a message appeared on computer screens indicating the system had been hacked. saturday ticket machines read out of service. some workers told us their e-mails weren't working either. the transit agency says they opened fare gates as a precaution to minimize customer impact. many riders had no idea why they were being waved through while train service continued as usual. >> it said free entry and we were kind of confused.
we thanks thought, oh, maybe it was broken at first and then we were like it's free. >> thought maybe it was a holiday thing or something they were doing. >> some riders. told it was a glitch in the system. a spokesperson for the agency didn't know the potential cost of this. they're working with outside agencies to get to the bottom of what happened and why. new details now in a story we first broke on friday. we've learned more islamic centers received letters filled with threats and hatred. as nbc bay area's damon true he yo first reported, the letter arrived in san jose. it called parishioners children of satan and said trump is going to cleanse america of muslims. this weekend two islamic centers in southern california, in long beach and claremont, also reported they received a letter. all three were signed by americans for a better way. 17 dogs rescued from a burning house in the east bay last night. take a look at this video we got
from the oakland fire department and the terrific job by firefighters who were able to get the dogs out of the burning house. the fire started around 6:00 near the foothill square shopping center. the oakland fire department says there were no injuries, and the dogs were taken to the vet. now, a developing story this morning out of new orleans. one person was killed and nine others injured in a shooting on bourbon street. some 30 police officers were already in the area at the time of the shooting. the officers were part of the security detail for this weekend's bayou classic football game. eight men and two women were among the wounded. one of those men died at a local hospital. officials still don't know what led to the shooting. the mayor of new orleans called it senseless and tragic. >> we're going to continue to work really, really hard to make sure that we find the folks that did this just like we've done in previous shootings. totally unacceptable. i mean, the violence just continues to spin out of control with people brandishing weapons whenever they think they can,
and it's really unfortunate. >> two men were arrested for illegally carrying a firearm, but it's not clear if they are involved with the shooting. investigators say they are gathering evidence from the area, including surveillance video footage as well as interviews from victims and witnesses. reaction to the death of fidel castro is pouring in from around the country as cuban exiles celebrate in the streets of miami, cuban-american politicians are condemning castro's oppressive 50-year regime. nbc's chris pollone has the story. >> reporter: a bittersweet celebration continued in little havana with thousands cheering the end of an era and the death of cuban dictator fidel castro. but many are left wishing some of their relatives and friends who escaped the regime lived long enough to see this. >> those are toy tears of? >> joy and sadness. >> reporter: millions fled the
island as the communist dictator seized property, silenced the press, and jailed dissidents. >> he destroyed families, destroyed a country, he detressed practically a culture. >> reporter: cuban-american leaders in congress agree. >> he was a sadistic murderer who brought great suffering to the 11 million people of kuba. he should not be reviewed. he should be revilreviled. >> this is the legacy of fidel castro. >> reporter: president obama who moved to normalize relations with kuba was more measured saying history will record and judge the enormous impact of this singular people on the people and world around him while president-elect donald trump said fidel castro's legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty, and the denial of fundamental human rights. as they celebrate, cuban-americans fear little will change in kuba soon. castro's brother raul remains president, but he's 85 and has said he'll retire in 2018.
>> hopefully we will have a democracy in kuba and i will be able to go back and visit the land of my birth. >> reporter: a glimmer of hope that didn't exist before. chris pollone, nbc news, new york. >> the passing of fidel castro is bringing back harsh memories for cuban-born families in the bay area who escaped the country. coming up in 25 minutes we'll talk to a south bay fire chief who was only 15 years old when he and his family fled kuba for a better life in the u.s. much more ahead on "today in the bay." coming up, colin kaepernick sparks another controversy. this time it centers around a t-shirt. plus, hustler boss larry flint is in the bay area for a grand opening that's causing some controversy.
in the park in san jose. going to open up in about two hours. open from 9:00 till midnight today and every day throughout the rest of the holiday season. 49ers quarterback colin kaepernick will take the field today in miami, but he's expected to be met with plenty of boos all because of a t-shirt. earlier in the week a miami reporter who was born in cuba questioned kaepernick about why he wore a shirt depicting a meeting between fidel castro and malcolm x. the reporter noted castro is linked to o preths, something kaepernick is fighting against. things quickly got heated during a media conference call. >> he took over a country without any justice and without any elections. >> we do break up families here. that's what mass incarceration is. that was the foundation of slavery. so our country has been based on that, as well as the genocide of native americans. >> are you equating the breaking up of cuban families with people
going to jail in the united states of america? >> i'm equating the breaking up of families with breaking up of families. >> kaepernick went on to note that he respects malcolm x for being open-minded enough to meet with castro. still much more ahead on "today in the bay." coming up, a racy new store opens in the south bay and opens up a discussion about whether it's a good fit. what legendary pornographer larry flynt is saying about it. are you ready for a break from the rain? here is a live look at the radar right now as that train continues to move out in terms of the showers. i'll have details on exactly what you can look forward to into sunday night and a look ahead at your monday.
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full sunday forecast. now, it's amazing that nobody was hurt when a car slammed into a convenience store in the central valley yesterday. there it goes. cameras show when a woman's car crashed into a 98 cent store in bakersfield. now, police say the driver's brakes malfunctioned, and she had nowhere to go. as you can see, that's her getting out right there. the woman was able to walk away from the accident. the store was closed at the time of the crash. now, a story about a store that's open but neighbors aren't too happy about it. despite the complaints, a new hustler store opened its -- had its grand opening in san jose last night. "today in the bay's" marianne favro caught up with hustler founder larry flynt as his sex-themed store opened its doors. >> you may have seen the billboards in san jose. now, the hustler hollywood store off bascom avenue is officially open. during the grand open hustler publisher larry flynt christened the new store, the fifth one to
open in california. but some neighbors have not exactly rolled out the red carpet, especially those with kids. >> i wouldn't like her saying, oh, what's in this store. >> reporter: flynt says people need to experience the lingerie and novelty store before they pass judgment. >> we don't sell to minors. we only sell to consenting adults. >> reporter: this woman waited in line to meet flynt and says the store is a big improvement over the former bank office that remained vacant for years. a hustler spokes person said the company made more than $1 million worth of improvements to the building. >> i love it. it's so cool. i live just around the corner from it, and i remember this was so empty. now like i just can come here anytime, get my lingerie. >> reporter: she also points out the strip club the pink poodle is right across the street and has been there for years, so she doesn't see hustler hollywood as out of character for this street. >> there are people that have
this knee-jerk attitude toward sex. what america needs is a more laid back attitude toward sex. >> reporter: marianne favro, nbc bay area news. >> speaking of shopping, we seem to like our themed holiday shopping days. we just had black friday, tomorrow is cyber monday, and yesterday was for the mom and pop shops, small business saturday. it's a chance for communities to sport their local shops and businesses. ♪ this is san anselmo in marin county. a festive mood at the marin roaster's coffee shop. businesses banded together to participate on this day after black friday. local shops cutting their prices, welcoming shoppers in their doors. store owners say small business saturday is a great opportunity for small communities to support one another. >> this is the first year we've actually come together as a town
and done something this monumental, so i'm hopeful that it will be, but generally, yeah, it's a great weekend for our street and for the town. >> the san anselmo chamber of commerce said for every $100 spent locally, $68 stays in the community compared to only $43 if you go to a national chain. it's been slow going for people driving in the sierra mountains this weekend. a heavy dose of snow caused backups. drivers were required to use chains on 80 and 50. this is what the roads looked like just before sunset. snow turning into slush on the highways. let's get a check in on the forecast with vianey arana. rain, snow, how are we doing today? >> well, for parts of the sierra out in lake tahoe, they are still under that winter weather advisory. if you have plans to head out today, you may want to take some extra time and for other parts of the sierra mountains we are entering a winter storm warning, but here in san jose and even
out through the north bay and the peninsula, we're just seeing overcast skies as that band of overnight downpours made its way through the bay area. all in all, we are expected to maintain those temperatures in the 50s in san francisco. finally clearing out. out in the east bay, finally starting to see some sunshine in the forecast, and we're finally going to get a break from that rain, especially compared to what we saw yesterday and into the overnight hours. today's highs are going to maintain on the chillier side. it's definitely going to feel like november out there, so make sure to bundle up. half moon bay to san francisco all the way up to santa rosa staying in the 50s. los gatos at about 58 degrees. and doppler radar right now, here is a live look, showing that series of storms finally tracking its way out, moving from the north to the south, making an exit, bringing a few spotty showers throughout the day out near san francisco, but all in all the storm system is expecting to make its exit making way for a nice clear
afternoon. now, your 24-hour rain totals if you're wondering how much rain we got out near napa, just under a half inch. dublin, san jose almost, almost a little over a half inch. estimated rain totals for today less than a tenth of an inch, but into the overnight hours we are expecting a third storm system that's going to track in more rain heading into monday morning. so let's take a look at your hour-by-hour outlook. by sunday afternoon we are going to clear out. here is what we're looking at ahead. so by monday at about midnight we're seeing another series of storms make its way in. really sitting off to the north bay, so if you have an early morning commute out near santa rosa, you may want to take some extra time. as always, make sure to drive a little slower when it's raining. a lot of cloud cover as we head into the overnight hours. now, hopefully most of us are sleeping by then. but if you do have to be up and at it early in the morning, it's showing the radar at 6:00 a.m. out near san jose, near campbell
and morgan hill we could be seeing a possibility of a few scattered showers early on. so you may want to just take a little extra time, maybe leave earli earlier. all in all, by monday afternoon it's going to clear out and this is finally going to make way for a week of sunshine, but not a lot of warm temperatures. now, with this storm system we do still have a beach hazard that will remain in effect until about 3:00 p.m. and that's because we are still seeing some pretty tall wave out there, pretty dangerous conditions, and, of course, that winter weather warning. 8 and 12 inches above 4,000 feet which could make for some pretty low visibiliadvicvisibility. you saw that camera earlier. if you had a drive up there, a lot of traffic. expecting more snowfall into the overnight hours, so it's going to make for a nice day if you're going to head out snowboarding, but you may want to wait until the start of the workweek. it might be a better time to go then, less traffic. if you're going to head out to the oakland coliseum for that game today, good news is we're not expecting rain.
i know the niners game saw a very soggy game last weekend, but today mainly going to be in the 50s. by about 12:00, 1:00, right around kickoff time we're expecting to top off at 58 degrees. it will be a good day for football. a little breezy at times so that could play a role in today's game. now, seven-day forecast, early morning hours by monday. clearing out into late afternoon. topping out at 59 degrees in san francisco and inland also expecting clearing in the rain for the upcoming workweek. i'll send things back to you. >> thanks, vianey. much more ahead on "today in the bay." coming up, from instagram posts to being featured in "vogue," how a san francisco artist captured the eye of gucci.
so you'll be ready next time life happens. because it's more than just health care. it's life care. we're just hear being some breaking news in san jose we wanted to get you up to speed on. valley medical center is locked down right now. officers from the santa clara sheriff's department are investigating a call made from
someone inside of the hospital who said there was suspicious activity near the emergency room. now, we have a crew on the way. we'll have another update when we get more information. now, shifting gears. shoppers are hitting stores all across the bay area in a mad hunt for gifts. some may hold the dreams of something from gucci under the tree. "today in the bay's" joe rosato jr. shows us a bay area artist whose gucci dreams came true in an unusual way. >> i draw. >> reporter: for countless hours over long years, artists will toil away hoping for that one big break. >> exactly like that. >> reporter: but you might say jade fish took the scenic route. >> i actually studied biology my first few years in college. >> reporter: the san francisco artist was inspired by things like nature and fashion. >> the textiles and color palates. i love natural forms and animals. >> reporter: even dead ones. >> my taxidermied mouse.
>> reporter: six years ago she started drawing professionally with some inspiration from her husband, artist jeremy fish. >> he is so passionate about his work. >> reporter: who also likes fashion. not long ago jade fish started drawing tearow cards. >> i love the metaphor and symbolism that are in all the cards. i was posting them to instagram. >> this is the creative director for gucci who also apparently looks at instagram. >> and he happened to see and contacted me, and he was curious if i'd be open to gucci acquiring them. >> reporter: they ended up buying fish's drawings. this fall they got invited to italy for the fall fashion show, though she wasn't exactly sure why. >> not really. >> reporter: no idea. >> i was excited, nervous, and mostly making sure she didn't explode. >> reporter: but it was a smoke-filled room, dim, red lighting. >> literally one by one they start coming down. >> reporter: and that's when the
couple saw it. >> oh, my god. clothes go down that had my illustrations printed on them. >> there's a tiny owl on that. they made a patch out of that. >> i was in awe. >> reporter: the same gucci that once inspired fish were now inspired by her art. >> you could get an opportunity this amazing by using a hash tag of a dude's name? it seems impossible but it actually happened. >> jade fish has been written up in magazines like "vogue" and "elle." >> some kind of magical thing has happened to me. >> reporter: what's the moral of the story? maybe these days the shortest distance between who points is some fine art and a social media account. >> fish will open her first solo art show on december 9th at the upper playground gallery in san francisco. still ahead on "today in the bay," can a cancer diagnosis make your life better? we introduce you to a remarkable young woman living with stage 4
welcome book to "today in the bay." good sunday morning to you. a look out live over the goadgo gate bridge. clearing skies showing up over the golden gate and pretty soon to spread across the bay area. so far so good, you're 100%. >> thankfully the only good thing is we are expecting those cooler temperatures, so it's still going to feel a little bit like november despite the sunshine, which i personally don't mind. now, 51 degrees and those early morning clouds will start clearing out. as you saw looking over san francisco, it's starting to look
pretty nice out there. here is a live look at the doppler radar. not a lot of rain over the bay area. a lot of it heading off to the far, far north bay toward oregon. we should be clearing out into the evening hours before a third system does make its way in which could mean some rain up ahead. now, today's highs are going to maintain on the cooler side. upper 50s all along the coast. san francisco, 58. half moon bay also 58. in the south bay out near san jose, also expecting to top out into the 50s. so not a lot of 60s on the board, and overnight temps have definitely been chilly, in the 40s and 30s for parts of the north bay. so it's been cold. >> interesting with our microclimates you don't always see within two degrees from north bay to south bay. >> right now looking pretty fair. we're not done talking about the weather because you heard it while you were sleeping. the spurts of heavy rain that fell in the south bay yesterday evening and overnight caused all kinds of problems for drivers.
chp officers had their hands full on multiple san jose freeways including an incident involving two officers who were injured when their suv was struck on southbound 680. it happened around 11:00 last night. they were about to leave the scene of a separate crash they were investigating when a dodge ram truck lost control and slammed into their patrol car. both chp officers were taken to a local hospital for treatment. both are in stable condition. now, not far from there just after midnight, about two dozen cars were damaged by road degree on northbound 880. officers say the debris, which came from an earlier crash, caused front-end damage and blown out tires for at least 21 vehicles. several of those cars were not drivable afterwards, had to be towed. officers say it was a very busy night. >> well, i can't put a number on the call volume tonight, we definitely had a significantly higher amount of crashes than we normally do, and it's all due to the rain, unfortunately. >> no serious injuries were
reported in any of the freeway accidents. of course, stay with nbc bay area for continuing coverage of this weekend's storm and snow in the sierra. you can also stay up to date by downloading our free nbc bay area app. a follow-up now to a story we first brought you yesterday. a popular community center destroyed by an early morning fire. you're looking at video showing flames at the mosswood recreation center in oakland. the mayor is now asking for support to rebuild. the rec center is next to 580 and west mccar -- mcarthur boulevard. >> towards the end of the building they were able to save what appears to be a large gymnasium. it's hard to tell. that part of the building was saved but the classrooms in the back a complete loss. >> the historic mosswood house
was not armed. they are setting up a special section on the website for anyone who may want to make a donation to help with the cleanup and rebuilding efforts. a south san jose police officer who was attacked on thanksgiving day is still in critical condition. robby chon is a 12-year veteran and a married father of who. this is surveillance video just moments before the attack. officer chon was struck in the head by a skateboarder he was pursuing. the suspect, luis ramos-coreas has been arrested and is facing charges of attempted murder of a police officer. a cancer diagnosis is devastating news, but one bay area woman is refusing to let it devastate her life. her name is adiba barney and before she got sick she was a busy silicon valley ceo working around the clock. now barney says she's living with stage 4 cancer and that in
some way has made her life better. >> why did i get it? that's the toughest part. >> reporter: for years adiba barney, ceo and president of the silicon valley forum, worked nonstop creating and supporting all kinds of technology. >> being a person that's always worked so, so hard, had such a career, and really never taken time -- >> reporter: in 2015 adiba was busy trying to get pregnant with her new husband when a fertility screening revealed cancer, stage 4 cancer. she was 37 years old. >> so when you get stage 4 cancer diagnosis, you don't know how many years you have. >> reporter: not long after this lifelong energetic workaholic stopped and, strangely, says a new chapter of her life began. >> the irony in itself is that i'm actually living my life more now. >> reporter: it's almost impossible to think of a cancer diagnosis making anyone's life better, but stanford
psychiatrist david spiegel says it can and does. >> it forces you to trivialize the trivial. one of my patients said my life has never been the same since i got cancer but in many ways it's better. >> reporter: barney is the epitome of this idea. once a month she takes a trip all over the globe with people that she loves. she's determined to live well. >> so i think it's wonderful that adiba is actually going out and telling a positive story. >> reporter: her oncologist says barney is one of her patients who is using cancer to her advantage. >> it almost always changes their outlook in terms of how they relate to their job, their families. >> reporter: befoarney says don get her wrong, she's very mad at her disease. i'm really pissed off at cancer for doing that. >> reporter: but it's also given her something back. >> what's the worst thing that can happen really in life? it's that you die or someone near you dies or, you know, that's the worst thing that can
happen, and while you're alive, why be dead, right? >> reporter: the doctor says this is the unwelcome gift that some cancer patients accept. >> they say cancer cures neurosis. you realize some of the things you've been wasting time worrying about isn't worth the trouble. >> i'm a cancer lifer. i'm living with cancer and i'm trying to live a life to the fullest. >> that was peggy bunker reporting. the news of fidel castro's death is being largely met with celebration in the u.s. it was a festival-like atmosphere again last night in miami's little havana. the party actually began there early in the morning hours in little havana. even miami's mayor born in cuba himself showed up to celebrate. castro's body was cremated yesterday. the passing of fidel castro is causing celebration among many local cuban-americans.
"today in the bay's" rick boon has more from san jose. >> i'm lucky my family is free. >> reporter: since the death of fidel castrcastro, this family like the family left in cuba has a chance to fulfill their dreams. >> our concern is will cuba stay a dictatorship country or will it be a democracy? >> reporter: this blossom hill eatery has been a place to reflect since castro's passing. >> may 20th, we have left havana the night before. >> reporter: reflection especially for some who escaped castro's rule. >> it was an overnight. we left at 5:00 a.m. and we got to key west around 6:00 or 7:00 a.m. in the morning. i didn't know what was going to happen. it was very rough. at times we thought we were going to sink and that's me right there. >> reporter: this 1980 video of a then 15-year-old juan diaz and his family all on a packed
refugee boat from cuba heading to america, dreams of a better life. >> it's emotional for me. i left my grandparents, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles, families that for generations that, you know, i wasn't able to go see them. >> reporter: 36 years later d rz is now the mountain view fire chief but he's never forgotten his roots and his journey. still ahead, the warriors looking for their 11th straight win without a key piece of the puzzle. sports is next.
steph lead all scorers. warriors win 115-102. they have won 11 straight. here is curry on playing without draymond. >> as the game went on, it seemed very, very similar to, you know, how we usually play and it was good to see that, that we can step up ain a guy like draymond's absence and still have contributions from other guys on the floor. from oracle to the s.a.p. center, the sharks and the ducks. an time scores the game-winner in the second period on a san jose turnover. sharks fall to the ducks, 3-2. much more ahead on "today in the bay." coming up, following in the footsteps of the united kingdom's withdrawal from the european, a lot of people are making a push to make california its own country. larry gerston breaks it all done next. wn next.
witnessed brexit, the british electorate voting to withdraw from the european union. now, some people here are discussing cal-exit where california could secede from the country to become its own nation. there's a propose yoal to consi the issue in 2019. larry gerston joins us. is this even a possibility? >> yeah. >> wow. >> remotely. remotely. >> i didn't expect that. >> but, yes, remotely. remember that word. >> remotely. >> the idea, of course, of california seceding from the nation is based upon what people see as really a growing disconnect between californians and the rest of the nation. here are some things that they kind of point out. first, size. size and population. california is the third largest state in terms of territory, the most populated state with one-eighth of the nation's population. separated it's sixth in the
world as a nation in terms of global economy. so it's huge. second, the lack of national government support. for every dollar the state contributes to federal taxes, guess what? california receives only 78 cents of government services in return. third, the values chasm. can't say this enough. california is big in the environmental environment. a trail blazer in energy conservation. staunchly pro-choice, the leader of the nation in gun reform. so you match these values against the recent presidential election, and we see why 62% voted for hillary clinton with 22% -- 32%, excuse me, for donald trump. and why so many people are so unhappy with the national result. >> now, we heard a lot in the analysis of the election of pockets in the country that were deeply distrustful of washington and of the national -- and of the federal government.
california wasn't necessarily mentioned in that group. we're talking more the midwestern, some of the place that is went heavily for trump. so we would think we would be pro-federal government in california. >> but along with all the people who voted for hillary clinton overwhelmingly 2 to 1, there's a cesspool, a cesspool in the state of libertarians. you put those along with the despondent liberals, and these folks would like to get rid of california in terms of its national connection because of what they see of overregulation and stolen state's rights. now you have the strange combination of the liberals here who say this conservative, or someone they think is one, is violating all our values and the libertarians who say it's time to get out. >> it's been a long time since i was in high school but i remember somebody tried secession, how did that turn out? >> between 1860 and 1861. of course, 11 states, we know this story, 11 states seceded
from the union over states rights which covered everything from slavery to tariffs and that led to what we all remember is the civil war. well, we weren't there but we read about it, okay? and the union, of course, prevailed with a military victory in 1865. but another response -- >> spoiler alert. >> another response with secession occurred in 1861 when the voters in west virginia seceded after virginia decided to leave the union. west virginia then became the 35th state. but remember here, in this case a state seceded to remain in the union, not leaving it. but there's that thing you were just talking about a couple minutes ago, a national reuters poll in 2014 found that 1 out of every 4 americans believe their state should have the right to secede from the union. so there is something that bubbles not only in california but other places as well. >> but even if the people within the state wanted to secede, the federal government would have something to say about it. if california is the sixth biggest economy in the world, the federal government isn't
going to lose that, so there's going to be some resistance there. what happens then -- like what are the procedural steps? what happens next? >> draw up a chair while we go through a long story here. you begin by knowing that the u.s. constitution says nothing about seceding from the union. so that might offer the hope to secessionists. but since the civil war was fought to preserve the union, most experts conclude that the states have no right to secede on their own. still, garvin, yes, there is that one possibility for the calexit advocates. a constitutional amendment specifically allowing california to secede. of course, that would take a two-thirds vote in each branch of the government along with three-fourths approval of the states. and given that california's economy is equivalent to being the sixth largest nation in the world, it's impossible to imagine those votes of approval. then again, quite a few events thought to be impossible have
occurred this year. >> and this is one of these things where there's a practical discussion here about whether it could happen, but then just the idea that people want -- people are even discussing it, that's a thing in and of itself. >> are you going to raise your own army and navy and defend. are you going to provide for everybody's social needs to matter what? yes, but the fact is people are talking about it. >> can't tell you how much i miss these talks, larry. great to see you. we'll be right back.
rise and believe it or not shine. here is a live look over san francisco. nice, calm, serene skies following a night of some pretty heavy downpours and scattered showers throughout the bay area from the north to the south. right now 52 degrees. nice and chilly overall. we're expecting to maintain in those 50s, not just in san francisco but also out near oakland. look at this beautiful shot, and if you are heading to the game, i have a look at an hour-by-hour forecast of exactly what you can expect. 53 degrees. if you're wondering about the highs today? well, if you look at the doppler radar rate now, the majority of that storm has finally tracked to the south, and that's going to make way for some nice clear skies, but we do have a third storm that is expected to move in overnight bringing some possibility for some early morning hours across the bay area. today's highs microclimate forecast, looking very similar across the board. 50s along the coast heading down to the south bay, san jose, los gatos, also 58.
and near napa also in the 50s. so all in all, the bay area will feel very november-like. nice and chilly, so if you are going to be outdoors, you will get a chance to enjoy sunshine paired with a nice cup of coffee because the temperatures will be perfect for it. estimated rain totals for today, not a lot but we did see just over a half inch. if we put together saturday and today and, of course, we do have that third system coming in on monday, here is an hour-by-hour forecast. by about midnight we already started see the cells sitting off to the north bay and santa rosa expecting early morning commuters to probably get the majority of that rainfall. now, by about 6:00, here is what i'm taking a look at because this is usually when people are getting up for work and if you're out in the south bay, this is going to be something you're going to want to pay attention to. we are expecting to see some cloud cover. models showing the possibility of a few showers early morning on between 6:00 and 7:00 and 8:00 which is typically when people start making their way outdoors and heading to work. make sure to leave a little earlier. look at this, by monday, 2:00,
this is what's really going to start the trend for the workweek because we're going to clear out. not a lot of cloud cover. still expecting to see that patchy fog along the coast which, of course, we are still under that beach hazard. that should be in effect until about 3:00 p.m. still seeing some pretty tall waves out there, about 13 feet. still a little dangerous out along the coast. if you're going to head to the beach, maybe stay inland or just a quick photo-op. in tahoe there has been society pretty good downpours of snow or i should say snowfall but we are under that winter weather warning in lake tahoe. they are under a winter weather advisory and 8 to 12 inches above 4,000 feet which could make for low visibility which i'm sure a lot of commuters yesterday definitely saw that out on the roads. if you're heading out to the raiders game today, here is what you can expect. no rain thankfully in time for kickoff but the temperatures are expected to stick within those 50s. we'll stay in the 50s and even towards the end of the game not a lot of changes.
58, 57, and overall the next seven days here is what you can expect. we're tracking 50s across the board. nice early morning showers on monday, but by tuesday and wednesday this is going to bring that shift in that weather pattern, which means no more rain. we're going to dry out at least for now. inland also expecting to maintain those nice temperatures in the 60s and overnight lows 40s and 30s which is a little too cold for my taste. >> but that's what qualifies for bay area winter. >> very true. >> vianey, thank you very much. we wanted to get you an update on the breaking news we told you about earlier in the program from san jose. this is a live look now at valley medical center. it is no longer in lockdown. now, after searching, officers tell us they did not find any suspicious activity. this after being called by someone inside the hospital saying there was something going on in the emergency room. operations at the medical center have returned to normal.
dozens of firefighters and nurses in san jose took to the streets this weekend to raise money for burn victims. this was at the busy intersection of almaden expressway and blossom hill road. the campaign called fill the boot was led by the san jose firefighters burn foundation and helped raise money for victims. the main need is garments for burn victims which hospital staff say is crucial for recovery. >> after someone gets burned, burn patients need to pressure garments worn 23 hours a day and they're very tight. they can be uncomfortable but it helps to prevent the production of scar tissue. >> the garments are expensive. about $2,500 to cover the body and some insurance companies do not cover the cost. thank you so much for making us part of your morning. no 5:00 or 6:00 news tonight. instead, it's sunday night football. xfinity sports sunday prime follows the game, then a special
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we need to make sure that we have a beautiful place for our children to live. together, we're building a better california. this sunday, the death of fidel castro, what it means for the u.s., cuba and american politics. >> he destroyed a country. he destroyed practically a culture. >> andrea mitchell is in havana. i will talk with senator rubio. is trump backing away from some campaign rhetoric. remember this? now trump says hillary clinton has suffered enough. from the border wall to global warming, is there a change in the air? i will talk to trump area former campaign manager kellyanne conway. shades of 2000. the clinton campaign joins the effort to recount the vote in three states. is there any chance it could make a difference?
joining me for insight and analysis are, helene cooper, matt bai, danielle pletka and mark murray. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. we have a lot to discuss this morning on president-elect trump, the transition, whether he is backing away from some key campaign promises and of course the call for a recount now in three states. all of that in a moment. we will begin with the death of fidel castro. not surprisingly the news has been greeted with joy and celebration where cuban-americans have been waiting for this for more than five decades. >> this is a topic that really gets to me. i've been hearing stories of cruelty and oppression. >> he destroyed families. he destroyed a country.
he destroyed practically a culture. >> this may be the beginning of the end of the castro regime in cuba. and the beginning of the freedom for the cuban people. >> some people may disagree about his legacy, there's no doubt he is one of the monumental figures of the 20th century. a revolutionary turned dictator who frustrated 11 u.s. presidents from eisenhower to obama. andrea mitchell has covered castro, interviewed him, done this for many years. she's right in havana, cuba, this morning for us. let me start with this, we know how cubans in miami are reacting. how are cubans in cuba reacting? >> reporter: somber. it's muted, chuck. in havana, people are going about their daily lives. it's a generational divide. the older generation more emotional about fidel castro. for the younger generation, really, since 2006 when he became ill and 2008 when he
turned power over to his somewhat younger brother raul, he has been less of a political presence, more of an aging grandfather, the founder of the revolution, in fact. but more symbolic i should say than a real presence. there's been so many changes, of course, raul castro's gradual economic reforms, the opening to the u.s. and now, of course, the big question of what comes next? things are pretty much frozen in place here. they are anticipating changes under donald trump. they are nervous about that. >> andrea, short term, how is cuba planning to bury fidel? >> reporter: there's going to be nine days of mourning. he is being cremated today. they will start processions around the country paying respects to the remains which will be in a large box similar to vara. next sunday, the days of
mourning end and there will be an official burial. on television, of course, his presence ever present, constant documentaries showing the younger fidel, the revolutionary fidel, the family. that said, they are moving on. question now is the most important relationship with the u.s., where does it turn? >> we will try to tackle that question throughout this hour. andrea mitchell in havana, thanks very much. there are few if any foreigners who have done more to shape american policy and politics than fidel castro. we will have more on his outsized influence later in the broadcast. i want to turn now to donald trump and the question on the supporters, is the president-elect backing away from some key campaign promises. during the campaign, mr. trump endorsed waterboarding. >> don't tell me it doesn't work. torture works. okay? >> he told the new york times that one conversation with a potential defense secretary,
general james mattis changed his mind. >> he said, i have never found it to be useful. he said, i've always found -- give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and i do better with that than torture. >> from climate change tomed ey from building a wall or nafta, he has backed away or stayed silent. kellyanne conway is a big part of the transition and joins me now. welcome back to the show. >> hi, chuck. >> let me start with cuba. because on this issue, you could take some of his statements and say he has been on both sides of what president obama has done in trying to open up -- reopen up relations with cuba. he said he was fine with it back in the spring. late in the campaign he seemed to indicate that he wanted to reverse some of the changes that he made. what can you clarify with us this morning on cuba policy when it comes to president trump?
>> several things, chuck. first, president-elect trump put out a very strong statement yesterday about fidel castro. he is not going to be one of these people romanticizing him as a hero. he was a dictator who oppressed and imprison and harmed and murdered people and separated families and has many decades of blood on his hands. let's be clear there. on the issue of diplomatic relations being rewoopened with cuba, what president-elect trump says is he would be open to that. but got nothing in return. we pretend we are doing business with the cuban people when we're doing business with the cuban government and military. they control everything. he doesn't want us to be fooled. this is in keeping with the america first and americans first and her interests abroad first. policies of president-elect trump you see in trade, you see it here with reintespect to cub. he wants to make sure we get things in return. it's not always a unilateral can
a capitulation to foreign lag s governments. he wants to make sure cubans have the same freedoms as they do here. make sure the political prisoners are released into freedom and make sure the american fugitives face the law. >> concretely, is he rolling back? is he going to reinstitute the embargo immediately and then go to congress? what is he going to do when he takes office? >> none of that has been decided. the president-elect will make those decisions and will make those announcements once he is president. we have a president in office and we're respectful of that. >> i understand that. doesn't he -- if he is going to change it, there are many people who are making plans based on whether policy is going to change. is it a definite that policy is going to change or is it possible he keeps some of the changes in place? >> nothing is definite. he will be speaking with his advisers and he will be applying the same brilliance and
instincts and -- that he applied all thought the campaign to all of the issues. frankly, chuck, i think the first order of business here now that the dictator is gone is to see how much we can do as frankly a world community if not the united states of america to try to get these political prisoners to freedom. i have met some of them. i have met many of the family members whose lives were devastated, whose entire families were separated if not destroyed. you know the stories that senator rubio -- >> is he willing to shut down -- let me ask you this. i know the stories very well. is he willing to essentially shut down this diplomatic reproach for the -- on behalf of the political prisoners? does he want to shut that down? or does he want to keep that open? >> that's for discussion. that's on the table. this is what -- look, this is what leaders do. leaders listen, they learn. they take the counsel of many people. they see what the circumstances are. and he has been talking to
president obama beyond the sit down they had 30 hours or so after president-elect trump won the election, they have been talking regularly on a number of issues. they talked just yesterday. >> can you give an update on what they talked about since you said that? we like to hear news here. how long was the conversation? >> they did. about 40 to 45 minutes. i can tell you from president-elect trump's side that he very much enjoys speaking with president obama, talking about the serious issues that face this country and the world. they get alng niong nicely. they disagree on many things. that isn't going to change. there's a respect and a respect for the process and peaceful transition of power. which is why the recount is so confounding and disappointing. their president barack obama will be in office for eight more weeks. they have to decide whether they're going to interfere with him finishing his business, interfere with the peaceful transition, transfer of power to
president-elect trump and vice-president-elect pence or if they will be sore losers about an election they can't turn around. >> i will ask you about that in a minute. i want to focus on this conflict of interest issue that you guys are trying to work through. president-elect trump told this to "the new york times." he believes -- obviously, he legally can do this. he says he can run his business perfectly and run the country perfectly. but he knows he has to do something. what does he plan on doing? what is that something when it comes to not having the appearance that he is going to profit -- his companies will profit off of his presidency? >> first, let's be fair. it's not as if he said he is going to be doing two things at once. he said his company can be run perfectly. he has been public about the fact that his three adult children who are modelling the company will continue to have very senior roles as executives of the company.
so he has been talking to his lawyers. he has been talking to ethics compliance folks. everything will be done the way it needs to be done. chuck, there's no question that we're in unprecedented times. this country is not accustom to having a successful businessman and job creator at the helm. we're just accustom to typical politicians ascending through the ranks. it's different, but it's a large part of why people elected him. and i think the presumptive negativity that some people have toward him that he won't get this right is counting him out and betting against donald trump, which is never a good idea. he will comply with the law. >> let me quote peggy noonan. it would be a painful act selling the business he loves and around which he has ordered his life. but there would be comfort in doing the right thing, in denying his opponents a sword and enhancing his stature and demonstrating that he will sacrifice for his country. that's pretty great comfort. you've made your money. now go be a patriot.
she's recommending that he take the advice of the wall street journal editorial page and liquidate it all. why won't he do this? >> it's not that simple. that was actually raised in the "new york times" on the record interview as well. a couple things that president-elect trump said in that interview is that selling real estate is not just selling off real estate is not just like selling stocks. why deny his adult children the ability to do what they do so brilliantly already? >> why won't he put the -- isn't this a case where he should put the country ahead of himself and ahead of his children? >> he does. you know, chuck, he's put the country ahead of everything else. just running and indeed winning and becoming the president of the united states, he has shown that he does this. he didn't need to run. all the usual motivators are elusive to him, power, money, fame, position. he did it because he loves the country and he and 72% of the country did not like the
direction in which it was going. we have to give him -- i went back and looked at the press clips and conversations on shows like this were eight years ago. it was basically debating just how cool barack obama is. we should at least -- if we're not going to that about president-elect trump, we should trust him to do the right thing. >> i understand every knee jerk pushback is going to be to blame the media. it's a crutch. i get it. i'm used to it. >> not be me. >> let me ask you this. >> that's not fair. >> why are you campaigning against mitt romney as secretary of state? >> i'm not campaigning against anyo anyone. i'm a concerned citizen. >> but you don't think he should be the choice. >> i can't tell you -- i'm not trying to make the news. i'm trying to reflect the news here. i am just astonished at the breathtaking volume and intensity of blow back that i see just as one person close to the president-elect is receiving unsolicited from people on social media, particularly in private communications.
people feel betrayed to think that governor romney, who went out of his way to question the character and the intellect and the integrity of donald trump now our president-elect would be given the most significant cabinet post of all. that's a decision that one man can make, president-elect trump. i will respect it. and i will support it 1,000%. but i'm reflecting what the grass roots are saying. they feel -- they feel a bit betrayed to think you can get a romney back in there after everything he did. we don't know if he voted for donald trump. he and his consultants were not but awful to donald trump for a year. >> kellyanne conway, i will leave it there. big part of the transition, former campaign manager. thanks for coming on "meet the press." >> thank you. i spoke with senator marco rubio of florida who ran for the republican presidential nomination against donald trump. senator rubio is a cuban-american who has been a fierce opponent of fidel castro. i will bring those comments later in the broadcast. we also talked about
president-elect trump and i asked senator rubio about the transition and mr. trump's potential conflicts of interest. here is that part of the interview. >> he is someone who has nod held public office. he has been business ties. we knew that. voters knew that. now he will hire a white house counsel or has and they will work through that and decide the appropriate way to separate himself from business affairs. >> what do you think is appropriate? >> i don't know the extent -- i don't know the entire -- >> isn't that part of the problem? >> in terms of what? >> that we don't know. shouldn't you know the nature, shouldn't we know the nature of his business dealings around the world? >> sure. my sense is that he is going to declare those now as he moves forward. that will bet job of t the job white house counsel to lay out what his interests are and what they are doing to separate those from the decisions he is making in the white house. i imagine they're aware this is something they will have to confront. as i said, the elections have been less than three weeks away. they're working through a process.
there's nothing wrong with expecting them to show that. i expect they will. >> let me ask you this. you issued statements praising donald trump's choice of pompeii he would, you praised him for picking nikki haley for ambassador to the u.n. we noticed you didn't have any statements for mike flynn as national security advice or jeff sessions as attorney general. should we read anything into that? >> no. mike flynn doesn't come from senate confirmation. that's why we didn't comment. i'm not on the judiciary committee which jeff sessions will have to go through. the three you mentioned, nikki haley will go through the foreign relations committee which i sit on. pompeo will go through the intelligence committee which i sit on. i know them well and personally. i know jeff sessions. we have a good working relationship. i respect the process we have which means he will have to go through the process. at that point, i will have something to say. it's the way we have handled every nomination for the most part under president obama and
now under president-elect trump. >> you are not ready to say if you will support the confirmation of jeff sessions as attorney general? >> i never do until that person works their way through the process. in the case of pompeo and nikki hal haley, they will come through the committee. they will have to go through the same process as anybody else. if something emerges from that, which i don't expect, then we will comment on it. >> speaking of your committee, you were -- you said for instance you would not talk about wikileaks at all during the campaign. you said the russian government was involved and you thought it was inappropriate. you knew that, okay, this was hurting the democrats today. tomorrow it could be your party. you are chair of a subcommittee on western hemisphere transnational crime, human rights and global women's issues. you could call your own hearing investigating, because this could be a crime that was committed by the russian government into when it came to wikileaks. do you plan on investigating if no other committee steps up and does it? >> well, first of all, in order
for us to investigate that in my subcommittee, we would neat the permission of the full committee. i imagine that senator corker may have an opinion on that. he may want do that. you will have to ask him. i'm open to that. here is the bottom line. if a foreign government has been involved in injecting chaos into our democratic process, the american people deserve to know that. i have made my feelings known in the midst of the campaign. i will continue to focus on that. i will say to you that i think it would be inappropriate and something that we should not allow to stand without informing the american people of that reality. let me say this. i have never said it to the russian government, although i believe it was the work of a foreign government. i will say this, if you look at what happened during our election and the sort of things that were interjected into the election process, they are very similar to the sort of active measures that you have seen the russians use in the past in places like eastern europe to interfere with the elections of other countries. what we mean by interfere is they try to undermine the credibility of the election, they try to undermine individual
leaders and create chaos in the political discourse. the fundamental argument is they want people to -- they want to delegitimize the process. >> is it worthy of congress at scrutiny? >> absolutely. >> donald trump is going to rescind a lot of executive orders that president obama made. let me ask you one specifically, it's called daca for dreamers. granting essentially -- we can shorthand it here. amnesty for those who are brought into this country as children. so they're not -- they're protected and not deported. what is your recommendation to donald trump on that specific executive order? >> my recommendation would be that there are people that have already availed themselves of that. there's a period of time for that. i would not retroactively remove their status. i would say that from some point forward, people will not be allowed to apply for renewal for that status. that will give us a defined period of time to work through this, beginning with border security and modernization of the legal immigration system. >> don't rescind it immediately?
>> well, people already have it. someone has that permit. it's not indefinite. it expires. what i would say is if you have it, you will have it for that period of time. but you will not be able to renew it. it's not a long period of time. but it does give us the time to do border security, modernization and then move to something very reasonable for people like those who came here as children or those who have been here for a long time who are not criminals to allow them to attain legal status through a legal way, not unconstitutional. >> more of my interview with senator rubio and his thoughts about the death of fidel castro and where the relationship goes from here later in the broadcast. first, clinton campaign joins the effort to recount the votes in three states. you heard what kellyanne had to say about that. is there any chance the results could be overturned? could be overturned? what are the you can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour.
welcome back. panelists here, matt bai, helene cooper, danielle pletka and mark murray. welcome all. let me start with this recount, only because i heard kellyanne conway's reaction to it, matt. it was pretty harsh on the clinton campaign. they were almost -- >> she went out of her way to bring it up. >> she did. i didn't bring it up. donald trump has tweeted about it this morning. there's enjoying poking them,
calling them sore losers. >> she brought it up. it's clear that they don't want this -- they don't want this to become a distraction. they were sensitive about it. i'm trying to think the right analogy of this is with jill stein and the clinton campaign. it's like your neighbor goes in your house and brings your belongings out to the curb and when somebody talks them calls the police and says there's a theft. i don't know what it is. for jill stein to want -- i was trying -- i don't know if that's the right one. >> we have to cut him off now or he will keep going. >> i won't -- >> this is -- you are like me. you don't get it, do you? >> i don't understand. i don't think there's any percentage in it for anybody. i don't understand the political play. i don't understand why jill stein is doing it. i don't understand why the clinton campaign is doing it. if i were the trump folks, i don't think i would go out of my way to bring it up. >> how old are you? >> really? 48. >> this is somebody who like me and like you lived through
florida in 2000. once you have gone through that and you have seen just how hard a recount in one state is, the idea of taking it on in pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan -- i don't get what jill stein is -- i don't understand this at all. >> somebody talked jill stein into this it smells like. >> was it you? >> almost guilti ining her. the margin of victory in michigan and in wisconsin would be made up if all stein vote her voted clinton. >> yeah. >> whatever. but why are they doing this? >> i ended up reaching out to people at the clinton campaign to say, did you have anything to do with it? are you happy jill stein is flooring this? we had nothing to do with this. this is jill stein on her own. they decided to join it because they feel like it's important to their voters, the people who are fired up to say, this is already happening. we're going to go out and
piggyback on this. jill stein ended up getting 50,000 votes in the state of michigan. the margin is 10,000. you end up looking at wisconsin, the margin there was -- is about 20,000. jill stein got more than 30,000 votes. pennsylvania wasn't going to make a big difference. having jill stein lead this -- >> do you have an analogy? >> you had the better one. >> we don't those votes would have gone to hillary clinton. >> or not voted. >> they might not have voted. the bottom line is, i don't understand why anybody is so excited about this. the constitution allows for this. state constitution allows for this. jill stein is using it as a way to raise money. i don't like that it's fuelling the fire of this not my president. don't vote for donald trump, don't for hillary clinton, but that is wrong. >> let's pifvot to the conflict of interest issue. p se
>> i don't think donald trump is a big worrier. that's obviously served him well. he is getting good advice. he got wise counsel from peggy noonan and the wall street journal. he needs to detangle himself. he needs to be -- purer than whose wife? >> it's usually -- >> you are the analogy guy. he does. otherwise, this will distract from every single thing he does. >> every story. you name -- especially -- you name the international story. right? >> so it's going to be a huge distraction. it will dominate political coverage for him for a year if not longer. remember on the hypocrisy angle, one of the closing arguments was about the clinton foundation and the conflicts of interest there. you end up having hillary clinton having at least a plan to extricate herself and her husband from the clinton foundation if they won. we still really haven't gotten a rudimentary answer from
kellyanne conway about how that will play out with donald trump. >> i don't think that this i -- at the end of the day he made a decision he wanted to run for president of the united states. i'm sorry. at this point, you look at the -- the times had this great story that started with -- it's philippines, greece, argentina -- >> it is a who is who of hot spots. >> it will continue and continue and continue. >> he has a point that we have not seen this before. there are going to be entanglements that we haven't seen because he is a businessman with all these interests. what worries people is that donald trump has shown very clearly through the course of this campaign that he doesn't care about conventions, rules. he considers politics a lesser almost silly arena than business. he has found himself in it. he is going to do what he is going to until it costs him something. i think there's a distrust about will he observe the conventional rules of conflict of interest. >> congress, congressional republicans could put some handcuffs on him. do you think they will do that
when it comes to the business stuff? they could pass bills that creates a forcible mechanism here. >> that's not been the habit of the united states congress. they didn't do it to hillary clinton. they didn't do it to bill clinton. they haven't done it to previous leaders. what you want to do is see him owning this. i get it. it's complicated. there's no precedent. but in fact, he needs to do this. in fact, that is ultimately what will protect his children. otherwise, when he is out of office, if he continues to have this interest, they will destroy him. imagine going to a trump hotel but then nobody goes to the trump hotel. ivanka has seen this with her brand. >> peggy noonan, that was a powerful column. when be come back, meet the man who says it's time for nancy pelosi to go because it's time for democrats to start winning again. congressman tim ryan joins me. david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it?
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>> great to be with you. >> why do you think it's taken this long for someone like you or democrats to say, you know what, it's been a decade since democrats won control the house. why has there been so much comfort with her leadership until today? >> i think you think the next election is going to be different. the next elections haven't been different. my level of frustration came from the idea that we're going to have for two more years the same conversation as we have been having since 2010. i think the level of frustration in our caucus is as great as i have seen it. it's time to do something about it, not just talk about it. now we're not even the national party. we're a coastal party. we have to move forward. if we're not going to get voters in ohio, michigan, someone minut in minnesota, we have to go back there and campaign and get those voek folks in the fold. >> bernie sanders said the following --
do you think he is alluding to identity politics? >> i think in part, we try to slice the electorate up. you are black, you are brown, you are gray, you are straight, you are a woman, you are a man. the reality is, there's no juice in that kind of campaign. there's no energy in that because it's divided. the key to and the magic of good campaigns is when you pull people together. you unite them around a common theme. if you are black, white, gay, straight, brown, you want a good job. we focus too much on the minimum page a wage and we should talk about living wages and middle class wages and pensions and benefits and the things in the industrial midwest talk about. >> was this a mistake of message? is this hillary clinton? is this everybody just not talking about economic issues and the way that you want them
talked about? >> mostly message. if you look at the policies, i believe the democratic party still has the policies to help move us forward, the blend of public private partnerships, the inf infrastructu infrastructure, investment in education and research. those are things we stand for and believe in and will continue to fight for. the reality of it is, our message has been wrong. we can't keep saying, we got the message wrong. so please forgive us. we have been getting the message wrong since 2010. we have to get the message right. we have to have the right messenger. we have to have someone who with not just go on msnbc but on fox and fox business and cnbc and go into union halls and fish fries and churches all over the country and start a brush fire about what a new democratic party looks like. >> there's also a debate inside the democratic party about how to -- how or whether to work with trump. schumer and sanders and warren have indicated on some things they would work with trump. but there are others that argue, hey, republicans in congress chose not to work with president
obama and it was good for the republican party. is it good for the democratic party to work with donald trump? >> i think it is yet to be seen. i think we have an obligation to respect the voter who put trump in. we may not like it and we may have fought -- i traveled country for a year and a half helping hillary clinton to try to become president. we have to respect what the american people have done. but this is a unique president in a unique situation with a divided republican party. that is going to reveal itself as we get into the legislative proposals. now it's just rhetoric, it's positioning, it's tweets. proposals have to land at the house of representatives. budgets, real numbers. we have to wait and see. there may be an opportunity to work with trump and other issues we may have to fight him. >> what is nancy pelosi's fireable offense? >> we're not winning. >> that's what -- for get legislating? judged on that? forget fund-raisinfund-raising? >> yes. if money was the answer, hillary clinton would be president and we would be in charge of the house of representatives right now.
money is not the answer. it's message, messenger and it's about winning. winners win. we can't have a standard in the democratic party that we're going to accept being down 63 seats. 33 governorships, 31 secretaries of state, 69 of 99 state legislators, chuck. we're losing all over the board. we have to start something new and start fresh. >> what is -- what do you make of the recount decision by the clinton campaign to cooperate with jill stein's call? do you think that's healthy for the country? >> it's their decision. they ran a tough race. >> are you supportive in. >> i'm moving on. >> would you counsel against it? >> i would. but i'm moving on. we have elections to win. we need to start rebiddined bre. we're moving into the next congress. we have a leadership race. we have to fill the dnc position. we have to move forward. that's the best thing for us to do. >> if you don't succeed as party leader, are you going to stay in congress? >> i'm focused until wednesday. we're going to win. we're going to surprise a lot of people. there's discord in our conference right now.
people want to move forward. they want to change. they have been home. i've been calling people over the holidays, which wasn't on my agenda. it was supposed to be football and turkey. people are saying, their families are telling them it's time for change. >> thanks to ohio state, you are probably in a good mood. >> excellent. >> tim ryan, democrat from ohio, thanks for coming in. there's one man whom we have followed from the time when americans watched the news on black and white televisionsera mobile devices. fidel cast
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welcome back. there was something supremely ironic in the death of fidel castro friday. this was a moment the u.s. government and some american citizens have dreamed about, planned for and obsessed over for nearly 60 years. the cia plotted to kill him. rumors of his death would move markets. by the time fidel castro died at the age of 90, he was an ill and feeble man who had ceded power to his brother and his death may have little impact. still, this marks the passing of a man who was not just an international figure but someone who had an influence on domestic american politics. >> when am i going to hate to the people of the united states? i don't hate anybody. including my enemies.
>> castro quickly became an enemy of the united states cracking down at home and punishing u.s. companies in cuba. in 1961, president kennedy ordered 1,350 cia trained fighters to invade cuba at the bay of pigs. the attempted invasion was a disaster. two generations of cuban-americans blamed democrat john kennedy and voted republican. a year later, castro invited the soviet union to base nuclear weapons on cuban soil. >> missiles in cuba add to an already clear and present danger. >> by the time he was 35, two u.s. presidents had tried to kill him. in all, castro faced off against 11 u.s. presidents, south florida policy became foreign policy. american presidents learned cuba policy could become a domestic political problem. in 1980, the mario boat lift became a problem for carter when it turned out that some of the
15,000 cubans castro allowed to emigrate to the united states had been released from cuban jails and mental health facilities. >> castro has taken hardened criminals out of prison. >> a governor in arkansas tried to be helpful to his colleague in the white house. bill clinton agreed to house some at a military installation while privately fuming, how could you do this to me? i busted my ass for carter. you are going to get me beat. >> the only way that we can really adequately secure the area is to have more troops inside. >> in june, a riot broke out. clinton had to call in the national guard. clinton did lose that re-elect bid. as president, he would get another hard lesson in cuba politics 20 years later. in 1999, a custody battle broke out over 6-year-old elian gonzalez. after a five month standoff, federal agents forcibly removed him from his extended family in
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psychological for a lot of people. from a practical standpoint, cuba today is governed the same way as it was 48 hours ago. >> do you hold out any hope it's possible raul castro was holding off on making changes while fidel was alive? >> no. fidel -- raul is 85. i hear people say the younger castro. he is 85 years old. he has been involved in the government since day one. he has been governing for the last ten years. the thing people don't understand is he is not a reformer thinking for the best interests of cuba. his number one interest is to make permanent the system of government. because they have an extended family and friends who depend on the system of government for their livelihood. they want this system of government to become a permanent and accepted way to govern an island nation. that's the number one interest is. >> you put out a statement a couple weeks ago saying this, rolling back president obama's one-sided concessions to the castro regime, a key campaign
promise shared with president-elect trump will be a top priority for me next year. >> absolutely. >> are you convinced it's a top priority for president trump? >> i am. >> you are going to fight to lift, to put back in the travel sanctions on commercial and private travel? are you going to put cuba back on the state sponsor of terrorism list? are you going to close the embassy? >> first of all, we want to look at all the changes made. let's take a step back. everything should be guided by our goal. our goal is not to punish. our goal is to figure out what can we do through u.s. policy to number one look out for the national interests of the united states and number two, to help create an environment where we are creating the potential for a transition to democratic order in cuba at some point in the near future. we would examine every policy to see whether or not that policy helps us down the line. i would add to that that i do think many of the things whether it's increase remittance, increase travel but some of the banking regulations, which i
believe are illegal to begin with, that some of the banking changes that have been made, they should be conditioned upon specific changes on the part of the cuban government. for example, i think as long as they are harboring fugitives of american justice who kill, thate tied to something we're doing over here. not to mention freedom of the press. freedom of expression. freedom of organization. on the other hand, i have never said i'm against all changes to cuba policy. i'm just against unilateral changes from which we get nothing in return for our country or freedom or liberty of the cuban people. look at burma or myanmar of how you can condition openings in exchange for democratic changes on the part of the other government. that did not happen here. we will examine the entire thing and make suggestions to the trump administration. >> let me bring in the panel. danielle let me start with you. you are a foreign policy -- it's
your in your wheelhouse. this this doesn't have the same feel that i think we all thought it would have ten or 15 years ago. could something change? >> i don't think anything is going to change. as marco rubio said rightly, fidel hasn't been in charge. raul is in charge. the transfer happened a decade ago. the problem is not -- was not fidel. it was the system that he put in place all these decades ago. that's with a we need to focus on. we need to focus not on an end to the castros, not the name, but to the system which lives off the back of the cuban people, threatens us and interferes in the region. >> the question is obviously, what -- of what president obama has done gets left in by donald trump. before we go way from president obama, his statement yesterday got a lot of people upset because of what it didn't say. let me put it up. here is what he said on castro.
i have to say, it's the most positive statement i have heard a president of the united states put out on afidel castro. >> i disagree -- you present a very -- mario rubio did that, a very -- castro as the satanic demon that the united states has -- in many ways he has been. but i think what president obama statement reflects is that nobody in the rest of the world sort of agrees with you. the castro that i grew up knowing as a child growing up in liberia was a castro who fought the south african apartheid regime that the united states was propping up. it was a castro that sent soldiers in and helped to bring down apartheid south africa.
there's a lot of ambivalence when you look atrop fidel castr. i think what president obama's statement was doing -- >> no. she brings up a good point. she brings up a good point in that -- castro's reputation around the world is different than in the united states. >> that ignores the fact -- you may like what castro did in south africa. i don't. you can't forget that he did this all on the backs of the cuban people. this was an absolute dictatorship that crushed this island beneath their jack booted heel. shot people for disagreeing with the castros, for 50 years they have been -- they murdered their political opponents and supported groups like hezbollah, iran and chavez. let's not forget who he is. >> this is a very american view of -- >> i can't tell where danielle is on cuba.
she might be vacationing there. i disagree a little with held even. there is an american view of this. i will say there was something poignant about castro's death. because as i -- it's not everybody's view. when he was elected in 2008, part of the promise, part of what people felt was the sense of turning a new generation turning the page on all the history, history just wouldn't quite get out of his way on his timetable. here it is the very closing act of his presidency and finally he gets castro out of his way too late. >> you did a little reporting on this as to why did the white house stay so -- >> this argument we're having here, the white house decided, we don't want to perpetuate the past. we want to go forward. the more you talk about fidel castro and his record, according to their logic was you end up fighting old fights that have been going on for 50 or 60 years. they wanted to turn the page. to me the biggest question will be, will we talk about fidel
castro and cuba come tuesday, wednesday? outside of florida, republican politics. if not, probably the white house's objective on moving on wins out. >> that's a great point. >> we will see. we'll be back in 45 seconds. end game segment and the uneasy relationship that is developing between the trump administration and old media, like us in network news and - listening to music in the shower can help you conserve water, so start your favorite song when you get in, and when it's done, time's up. you've probably conserved at least ten gallons of water.
saving the environment never sounded so great. back now with end game. perhaps the biggest story of the week in the transition were these awkward meetings. i was at one. i'm abiding by the the agreement. it was off the record with president-elect trump. have i done off the records with president obama and president bush. that's what we did. had a semi-off the record with the "new york times." you weren't in the meetings. you get to speak freely on this. what do you see developing here between trump and the media? >> i do think the first where you were going to have a detente. donald trump has a complicated relationship with the media. he loves the media. he loves "the new york times." he loves watching cable tv news.
he loved doing u ining the inte d he did. you were a former white house correspondent. helene, you as well. being a white house reporter, you see yourself as an institution. it's a different job than being a congressional reporter. it's different than being a political reporter. when you get in the oval office, you are at the podium, it's a different ball game. and a tougher game. >> do you feel like you can share? >> the meeting at the times was definitely a different donald trump than you have seen if you just looked at his twitter feed talking about the "new york times." this time, this was the more amenable trump, "the new york times" was a jewel, a great institution, this is the guy who that morning tweeted about the failing "new york times" and had misrepresented why he canceled the meeting to begin with. there is a dr. jekyll and mr.
hyde quality to president-elect trump. i worry that somebody who is as thin skinned as he is, who is as quick to react to any kind of criticism -- he is going to get a ton of it when he gets behind that podium. that's the job of the press. that's the entire reason the fourth estate exists. >> danielle, you are an outsider as far as observing this. you care about the substance of an administration. the rules of engagement between an administration and the press matters, too. how do you view this? >> as the only non-reporter at the table, although i used to be one many years ago, the thing that worries me is listening to you all, you have become conscious about your reporting. you think about yourselves. you think about your institution. you are not reporting. the view that the public has is that "the new york times" isn't objective, that nbc isn't objective, the twitter feed,
chuck is this, this and this. this is the problem. we're doubling down. you have a president who many people believe was made by the likes of cnn. he got more air time than anybody else. how do you square this and go back to the proper relationship? i don't know the answer to that. it makes me worry about what i read. >> anyway, we're not going to solve it here. you were a terrific panel. thank you very much. that's all we have for today. we hope you continue to enjoy -- i think today should be turkey chili day. it's time for the chili. we will be back next week because it's if sunday, it's "meet the press."
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